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Saturday, September 11, 2010

The really important thing to remember about 9/11

Let's keep in mind today that 9/11 wouldn't have happened if now Former Pres. Geo. W. Bush would have read--and reacted to--his Daily Presidential Briefing, which stated that Osama Bin Laden was planning an airplane attack on New York. But then, hey, we didn't have a responsible president for 8 years, did we? He just sucked up to corporations, the wealthy and "Big Oil" all that time, short-changing us, the American people, instead. THAT'S the important thing to remember this day, just after the sacrifices of the 9/11 families and the people who rescued--and tried to--the victims of these attacks. Links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Ladin_Determined_To_Strike_in_US http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2006/06/20/911pdb

11 comments:

Radioman KC said...

It also wouldn't have happened if Republicans (like or own moron Senator Pat Roberts R-KS who was on the Senate Intelligence Committee) had been overseeing our intelligence operations... rather than trying to impeach/overthrow Bill Clinton.

They simply didn't do their jobs... they were more interested in getting the White house back.

While they were ripping the DEMS on CNN every night, arab men were learning how to fly jetliners into buildings.

THAT's WHAT WE SHOULDN'T FORGET about 9-11!!

Mo Rage said...

But, again, after we remember the people whose lives were lost, for whatever reason, at the sites.

mr

Radioman KC said...

I don't think we need to remember them... that's just the politically correct thing to do.

But the republicans are quick to show us that video as often as possible to justify attacking the wrong country. I think we all know that in those collapses, 3 thousand Americans became war casualties in fifteen seconds.

Pretty much the same as in that picture when a bomb went down the stack of the USS Arizona and blew up ships magazine on a quiet December Sunday morning. It was just first blood.

We can't get their lives back. What we must remember are our stupid pants down mistakes so they won't happen again.

There'll be more blood, count on it.

It's a war. Life means nothing to these enemies... which is why we're going to have to kill them all, and we don't need a day a year to remember what they've cost us. This wasn't a hurricane or an earthquake. This was man made.

Personally, I see no reason why non citizens doing terrorism need trials. Not legal trouble. War. Same true in Mexico.

It does not speak well for large governments not to be able to wage a war, just because they're not all lined up in bright Neopolean colors.

If we're going to fight, lets fight to win. Rules should be different. If people are in our country to do mischief, take them out. Don't arrest them. Otherwise, we'll lose.

Mo Rage said...

Whoa, cowboy. Easy there.

If this were true, that we don't arrest them, etc., then it's open game for any chucklehead to say he or she did whatever and they had to be taken out. No, no, we need law and the rule of law and charges made and courts and judges and juries. Once we lose those, we become judgemental animals with guns tht can kill indiscriminately.

mr

Radioman KC said...

If we study modern warfare, we know that judgments are made constantly by the soldier with a gun. IFF. Identify Friend or Foe.

Today, we can do that with our technology. We just don't have time to build a case in wartime. We can't wait around for the FBI, long in the business of prosecuting domestic legal cases, to assemble that kind of evidence for reasonable doubt.

Not in wartime. Especially not with foreign nationals. Imagine if they were Germans or Japanese?

I'm submitting the rules are different. I'd like to see serious eavesdropping on Muslim religious institutions, just like J Edgar Hoover did. I know, I'm a cowboy. But those Saudis learning how to fly jetliners, they should have had their money trail followed, and they should have just disappeared.

They didn't commit armed robbery!

Frankly, I'm for massive deportations of non citizens and intense scrutiny of money funneled from overseas to non citizen mideasterners who haven't yet been deported.

I do not think guests here have the rights of citizens. They don't at home, why should they, flying in here from Quatar and Yemen?

Moreover, it's either a war or it isn't.

Radioman KC said...

Its never good form to PS your own comments but after I wrote my last piece advocating more Intel and to treat the terror situation as a war and not a legal campaign, I came across this on ALTERNET.

Talking about an absurdly large number of contractors in the intelligence system. Actually turns out I worked for one of those mega contractors years ago. Not on intel, but on standard government work.

Having been a contractor more than a few times, yes, the upfront costs can be high. But there's something inherently more productive about private enterprise than entrenched tenured government issue employees.

I'll take the writers for what they say, that contracting is overdone and now we have (instead of absurdly NOT ENOUGH but now absurdly TOO MUCH intel). I'll leave that for the Obama Administration to handle, if the republicans will just leave him alone to do his job. And even help him with it. Specially on INTEL stuff for national security.

If they're deep in war on drugs intel, how come we don't seem to be winning the war? We do require RESULTS. More energetic people than me ought to be able to handle that.

Anyhoo, here's the Alternet link.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/148007/inside_top_secret_america?page=1

chuck said...

Rman is right.

We Americans, hiding our heads in politicaly correct sand, make excuses for a population of muslims, that with VERY few exceptions, will not denounce terrorism and don't snitch.

The words are mouthed, the deeds are NEVER done.

Bloody constraint is all that generations of brainwashed, robotic, myopic, mind-controlled idiots, who see the world through a 12th century prism, that allows, embraces and enforces Shia law.

Until a nuke goes off in a big city, the PC Mass Media will continue to pusillanimously pacify, placate, pay-off and praise terrorists in sheeps clothing.

Ask the Russians how they like living next door to these whack jobs.

Like it or not, its coming.

Can you hear the thunder?

Pay attention.

Mo Rage said...

I feel certain that "serious eavesdropping on Muslim religious institutions" is actively already taking place and has been for some time. Just because you and I don't know about it, as you know, doesn't mean it isn't taking place. Ever since W's administration was caught asleep on the Mideasterners actively training to fly planes, resulting in 9/11, I feel certain all 13 of our intelligence agencies have been actively paying attention, around the world, as much as they can.

I don't think "massive deportations of non citizens" is going to happen any time soon. How would we look, internationally? What does that say about us? Are we no longer the "melting pot"? Can not our FBI, CIA, other intelligence agencies and our police keep us safe? I submit they can. The laziness that allowed 9/11 to occur simply isn't there any longer. I'm not saying nothing could or will ever happen to us. I'm just saying I think, for once, this is one lesson Americans finally learned.


And "intense scrutiny of money funneled from overseas to non citizen mideasterners who haven't yet been deported..." is also likely taking place but unless you're in one of those intelligence agencies, who can say?

I think human beings, coming to the US, do have fundamental rights alloted to all other persons, so apparently on this we disagree. I don't think they're allowed additional freedoms or rights, certainly, but we're the US and we need to be the "beacon on the hill", so to speak, to the rest of the world, for human rights. Certainly not to our own foolish harm or peril, but, yes, a beacon of human rights so that others can work on being the same one day soon. I'm hopeful and an optimist on this one point, at least.

mr

Mo Rage said...

Chuck,

No one--I repeat--no one, in media or out is praising terrorists". That's patent, over-emotionalized nonsense.

There is a huge difference between law-abiding, peaceful Muslims and Islamists and nut-job terrorists and suicide bombers. Hopefully the American public can discern that.

mr

Anonymous said...

Who is responsible for the terror attacks that have occurred since Obama took office>

Mo Rage said...

which?

I guarantee Pres. O reads--and reacts to--his Daily Presidential Briefings, first. Secondly, 3,000+ Americans haven't died due to his negligence as with the previous resident of the White House.

mr